Myburgh Designs, in the Dragon’s Den!
I presented my romantic copper swing seats to the Dragons at Pinewood studios recently, and the show went on air on Sunday 28th August; the bank holiday weekend.
I was under no illusions, having seen the programme a few times, and I was not too disappointed to return home without an offer of investment, although it would be nice to have a bigger marketing budget.
I took it as quite a compliment, actually…when they told me I wasn’t a businessman, but an artist. They couldn’t see my work in business terms at all. And you know, they’re probably right.
That may well prove to be a good thing since investment does mean having a dragon to answer to every day which would easily cramp the style of any free thinking artist. I think what I wanted, and probably didn’t communicate well enough was for one of the dragons to help market the swings to a bigger audience so that I can make fuller use of the spare capacity in the workshop. This would lead to being able to reduce the prices a bit, but it can’t be done the other way around.
The exposure on national television could result in all manner of unexpected enquiries including a few additional sales, some galleries or retailers wanting to stock the products, and even perhaps other investors to help us approach overseas markets where we know there is a huge potential. If you fall into one of these categories I’m here waiting for your call.
In preparation for a flood of visitors to www.myburghdesigns.com I set about making some new products to occupy price ranges below that of the swings.
Many people fall in love with the swings but are not ready to part with a four figure sum so I created Copper Poppies, Copper Pots, a Bird Bath and outdoor mirror, and we are busy on a tiered bird house and feeding pagoda to hang from the trees, all of which are illustrated on the products page now.
Here’s my appraisal of how the show goes:
To begin with Hilary Devey appeared to fall instantly in love with the swings, but then claimed she could get them made for (£80) in Morocco, and that every house in Morocco probably has one like it already. Her exact words are below. I thought it best to memain polite, and wasn’t really given a chance to refute this. What she didn’t seem to know, and made her look rather ignorant, is that copper trades on the world market at around $7,000 a tonne regardless of what country you are in. She was unaware of course that I lived and ran this business in Morocco for two years and understand the difficulties of working in that country better than most. Edited out of the show was Theo telling her that the copper was worth more than that!
Perhaps being a venture capital investor she believes that a business can only succeed if you find ever cheaper means of making your product overseas until you get it for as little as possible. For me as a South African defending business in my adopted home country, I told her you can’t just take the manufacture of every product out of the country. Besides, it’s art as much as manufacture.
You can’t outsource art.
Here is what she said; I think they’re fabulous, but I can go to parts of the world and buy that for 2 - 300 Euro. Almost every garden in Morocco will have a chair of some distinction like this in it. If you’re saying £800 is what it’s costing you to make ‘em here you wouldn’t be paying a tenth of that in Morocco.
I replied: But it’s about making things in the UK… etc
Miss Devey ended by saying “Business is about profitability, …bottom line Steve”. And I reluctantly agreed, more out of politeness than real conviction.
It’s this bottom line mentality that’s at issue. This is why our nation eats cheap battery chicken from Thailand in Tesco. If you want everything to be cheap and shoddy, made by exploited labour overseas, follow Hilary Devey’s example. She has so quickly forgotten about the ordinary people she has left behind in British workshops.
To the layman, and to viewers of Dragons Den, she must represent the rich in the UK, as a millionaire entrepreneur, but I have many well off clients who have bought my art over more than ten years. Her attitude is not representative of people who are discerning and appreciative of the art and creativity of places like Britain rather than made cheaply in a backstreet in the third world. I know
you don’t want cheap Chinese furniture, and I am sure most people would understand this.
For centuries British craftsmanship was the best in the world, but we have handed it over to cheaper labour abroad, for Hilary Devey’s bottom line. I have taken young men with no special skills and taught them not only how to weld and fabricate intricate items, but also how to contribute to the design processes. One was straight out of school, one was working in a back street garage fixing cars and the last was a painter and decorator. Two years on they are all artists in their own right and work with very little need for direction. This extends to customer relations as well, helping to secure sales with prospective clients, and spending time at their properties during installation of their swings. I thought the government was all in favour of this, but if British investors were all like her there’d be a lot more of us sitting around on our thumbs.
While in Morocco I found I had lost the connection I had enjoyed with many of my customers, most of whom at that time were in the UK. Unlike making large numbers of small items, which can be shipped back to the UK in bulk, I made small quantities for individuals, one or two at a time. The logistics involved in sourcing or importing suitable copper into Morocco, managing a workforce which was much less connected to the product, the environment or the people the product was for, and transporting the swings back home soon proved unfeasible. The only way Hilary Devey would come close to being correct would be if hundreds of swings were made per week in a custom built factory employing trained workers on low wages, to be shipped back to multiple wholesale points in the UK, to be sold for a small margin so that everyone could afford one. Instead of criticising me for not doing this already, perhaps she might have realised that only with major backing would this be possible, backing perhaps that I was looking for. It is odd that she didn’t make it as a suggestion rather than an attack, as she might have seen an opportunity for herself.
Nonetheless, I has seen at first hand not just in Morocco, but also in his native South Africa, the implications of running factories there. Exploiting labour, poor conditions, and no human connection to anything. The swings are not like mass produced door handles, they are things that their buyers have fallen in love with. They are romantic, it is important that they are hand made; indeed if they were made by anonymous cheap labour they would lose all their reason for being. There is a growing sense of responsibility by small business owners in the UK, and I am a firm believer in PEP; People, Environment, Product (his term). This is not new age mumbo jumbo, but a commitment to values inherent in the finished product that customers buy into, just as ever more consumers want to know that their meat came from humanely managed animals, and their clothes were not made by children in sweat shops.
Britain has craftsmen and workers who share this ethic, including those who work for me at Myburgh Designs. They aspire to more than just a pay cheque. It will be some time before the same can be said of workers in Africa.
Hilary lives in the so-called global market that saw the world shrink during the boom years that made her rich. Nowhere was out of bounds, the world was open for business, and planes and ships circumnavigated it constantly carrying everything from anywhere to everywhere. But it came with a cost. First we had the excesses of rampant consumerism, out of control fuel consumption, obscene resource usage and illogical resource management, where ship-loads of car bodies were transported half way round the world to have their engines fitted before being shipped back again almost to where they’d come from. People began to wake up to the need to bring things back home, and the term ‘Low Food’ Miles among other similar expressions became commonly used. Then we had a global financial crisis, fuel costs soared, ships lay empty, and air-freighters grounded. We still live in that global economy on the internet, in finance and other services that do not involve things. But ‘locally made’, ‘responsibly made’, ‘sustainably made’, ‘not made using exploited labour’, ‘hand made’, have become value adding labels more than ever before.
I could very well be up for a debate about this, perhaps side by side with Hilary on the One Show?
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Absolutely stunning pieces. Fusing nostalgia, romance and style is a really difficult thing to accomplish and you have done this with your effervescent character and pure love of your work.
I myself look forward to purchasing an item before long and I aim to spread the word.
saw you last night, what bloody fools the dragons are for missing the opportunity to
work with you, great designs and truly fantastic !.
Regards
Simon Woodman
I have spent the last 2 years trying to locate a copper swinging seat. Then I saw you on DD.
I wish you every success with these seats, they look wonderful!
I have just seen you on Dragons Den and both my wife and I said we love them and would love one at our house in South Africa.
steve - well done - I find people are drawn to UK made when looking for gifts - there are plenty of businesses that agree with you too - there is also loads of interest in DIY in the UK - weekend courses with steve?
Hello Stephen, I spotted these swings some years back, and we have spoken several times. I still aim to buy one if my business (I am trying to start a Yurt campsite with a difference…) ever gets off the ground….it is difficult developing your business head when your artisan head is swirling! My former job was as a picture editor for film & tv and I feel so cross that someone allowed the reference to Copper prices & Morocco to be cut out. I am fabulously impressed with your response above, and I sent out a cheer for British Craftsmanship and all you represent. Can you send a letter to the Guardian under their true stories section?!? ‘I survived Dragons Den, but this is what they cut out….’! Wishing you all the best, and hoping the coverage gave you some much deserved publicity, Kate
Hi Stephen.
I’m sure your inbox must be getting assaulted with emails from random people that saw you on dragons den last week and I am afraid to say I am another of them. However I just wanted to say you really inspired me.
I am also a South African, I live in London, and have just graduated from business school. Like you I have a passion and my passion is entrepreneurship. Recently I have noticed that people are now looking at new ways of doing things for themselves and following their passions and shows like dragons den is only the start of this movement whereby people will start to branch out of the normal work environments and cultures and go and follow their dreams. I have been working on a online form of the den whereby people upload a video pitch to not just 5 “dragons” but instead to whoever is watching and wants to share the entrepreneurs dream and help him or her make it happen. Its a much broader and more interactive approach to putting entrepreneurs and investors in touch.
Your story and your experience on the den is exactly the type of problem I am trying to fix. Not all investors are the same and not all businesses are the same, the dragons den only matches a certain type of person with a certain type of investor. I am sure that there are hundreds of people with money out there that share your vision and would like to get involved with your company but none of them where sitting in that den on the day. I am sure you have probably had the type of people you are looking for approach you after your pitch was aired on T.V. simply because you got showcased? This is exactly what my new venture will allow people such as yourself to do, without having to jump through all the hoops of getting on T.V.
I just wanted to say thank you for the bit of inspiration, your story really concreted my idea that there is a need for such a service as the one I am creating and I will now race full steam ahead to bring it to life.
Good luck in the future.
Craig
Good luck Craig. Keep in touch . Let me know how it is going.
Hi Steve, I have one of your beautiful swings - bought about 8 years ago -as soon as I saw it I thought of the pleasure it would bring to us all- children, grandchildren and friends- and of your skill and enjoyment in creating it. I thought of memories that would be carried through the years and decades of carefree, happy moments spent relaxing, chatting, reading, sharing secrets - there’s room for two- of summer afternoons. That might sound romantic but memories are made, are personalities created, of just such things as this ; my grandchildren love to sit in it , to play, read, sleep, stand on it to pick the grapes and figs and climb through the holes- things they’ll never forget. Wealth has little to do with money beyond covering the overheads, and much to do with quality of life. The burnished copper and the inviting space look amazing in the garden - any garden- so it’s much more than a swing, it’s a piece of sculpture and as such maybe the value is of a different measure. Mass producing something like this would change its character - so I’m very glad the dragons encouraged you to think again ! It’s sometimes difficult to quantify cost and value ….
Hi Heather. thanks so much for the beautiful words. you have said it so wonderfully and really touch on what I really am trying to achieve. Mass producing my work is never in my plans. But being part of the memories of so many childhoods is a real thrill for me. To me its seems that this network of memories, that I have a small hand in making, could be my best work.xxx
Well said Steve, money doesn’t give people soul you know - and your pieces appeal to the soul. Money might be of use to you or access to a wider audience but the innate beauty of your work cannot be tampered with. One of these years - when my boat comes in - I hope to take delivery of one of your swings, I’ve been admiring them for several years now.
Thanks Ann